Welcome to Progressive Army’s live coverage of CNN’s healthcare townhall-style debate. Our coverage will begin at 8:30 pm ET / 5:30 pm PT, 30 minutes prior to the start of the debate, and will continue throughout the event. A special post-show will follow immediately after, streaming on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter.
This live blog will include commentary and analysis from Progressive Army’s Benjamin Dixon, Anoa Changa, Salam Morcos, David Grossman, Jami Miller, Pamela Getz, Mike Redwine, and Kurt Hackbarth, as well as special guests Mike Figueredo (The Humanist Report), Katie Halper (The Katie Halper Show), Adriel Hampton (The Adriel Hampton Group), Georgia Davenport (Whole Washington), Brienna Fisher (Democracy for America), Natalie HolmeElsberg (LEAP),Rhonda Walker (Washington Berniecrats Coalition and The Party For US), and Tamborine Borrelli (Candidate for Congress, Washington State).
Welcome to our live coverage of tonight’s CNN Town Hall. Sens. Cassidy and Graham will defend a bill they introduced (we’re at version 4 right now) that would gut Obamacare. Sens. Sanders and Klobuchar will explain the negative impacts of the bill.
Our team at the Progressive Army, joined by a great panel of special guests will cover the event and highlight any fallacies (i.e. bullsh**) and provide insight and commentary. We hope that you enjoy the coverage.
How’d you like to have to debate your bill when you’ve just lost the vote needed for passage?
It would be solid TV if Susan Collins called into CNN's Graham-Cassidy debate tonight to tell Graham and Cassidy that she's killing it.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 25, 2017
Excited to participate in this live blog (my first I’ve done). And such an important subject! H.R. 1628 could result in millions uninsured according to the CBO report. We need to make sure everyone has access to healthcare, and this bill would do the opposite.
People whose lives would be strongly affected by the Graham-Cassidy bill were dragged out of wheelchairs and arrested today.
30 minutes until the debate starts and alot has happened over the weekend and today leading up to this.
Adriel, to your point about Collins, it should be interesting how Cassidy and Graham paint this when the bill is all but dead.
I’m so excited to join this amazing panel tonight. Medicare for All is the end goal, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t fight to defend and strengthen what we have now.
— NationalADAPT (@NationalADAPT) September 25, 2017
People whose lives would be strongly affected by the Graham-Cassidy bill were dragged out of wheelchairs and arrested today.
Senator Sanders’ views on the need for universal coverage through a Medicare for All program are well known, and Senators Cassidy and Graham have laid their bare their healthcare views with their disastrous attempt to pass the current bill that bears their names. But many people might not be as aware of where Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), who will be joining the debate, stands on the issue. Here’s what her website says about it: https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/health-care
“Leader” McConnell sounds like the name of a dictator in low budget movie. LOL. These people are so disingenuous in how they frame Medicare which has popularity across both sides of the aisle.
And we shouldn’t let it slide that of the Republicans against they aren’t necessarily against it for the right reasons. They still want to dismantle ACA
Thanks Brieanna. Many have accused Medicare for All to be a “Start for scratch” type of legislation, which is a fallacy that needs to be countered.
I don’t think so mfigueredo I think tonight is a rallying against ACA repeal.
You’re most likely right, Anoa. I hope Bernie is able to monopolize this discussion and talk about single-payer.
But once the repeal/replace effort is dead, we need to make phone calls to our Senators to support S. 1804 (Bernie’s Medicare for All). medicareforall
“CBO: Number of insured ‘reduced by millions’ under GOP health bill” and CNN just said the bill appears to be dead because of CBO report.
Bill Cassidy was literally yawning while disabled protesters who need Medicaid were physically dragged away from him. https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/912380808308170752
So fun fact about the Graham Cassidy bill,
The bill (Graham Cassidy) would make drastic cuts to Medicaid over the course of ten years. This would hit states that have chosen to expand their Medicaid enrollment after the ACA was passed the hardest. (WA, CA, NY, etc.)
One more reason why Paula Jean is the Senator WV needs in 2018! I’m with you sis!
Graham-Cassidy also aims to prohibit states from implementing single-payer themselves. Yet, Lindsey Graham is still pretending to be a “federalist.” The hypocrisy hurts my brain.
Another thing Tamborine, the first few pages of this bill are all about preventing tax credits for anyone who has abortion coverage in their insurance. This includes small biz that has abortion in their insurance coverage. No small biz tax credit!
About five minutes to showtime. Bernie has become a CNN star of sorts – safely after the election as for the mainstream media is concerned. But that means he knows this format well and, together with two years of presidential debate experience behind him, this should provide him with an advantage once the cameras are rolling.
Because they have essentially made being a woman a pre-existing condition but even without I and my husband are walking pre-existing conditions
And there are games too!!!!
According to the Washington Post, there is a $155 billion bailout to the insurance industry over the course of three years (2018-2020) to help them pay for the “high risk pools” associated with people with pre-existing conditions. (Even though we don’t know how many people with pre-existing conditions will be covered…I think it’s meant to be an incentive to cover them)
Senator Rick Santorum is currently warming up for the GOP on Anderson Cooper with an outright lie about block grants. Block grant funding will be insufficient to maintain coverage levels equivalent to the ACA. The block grant would be $243 billion less between 2020 and 2026 than projected federal spending for the Medicaid expansion and marketplace subsidies under the ACA.
We are making headway here in Washington state through Whole Washington with our single payer initiative. We have leading economist Gerald Freedman finishing up his portion on how Washington will pay for coverage. This will be the most in-depth initiative I’ve seen to date and can be used in conjunction with S1804.
I may be getting into the weeds, but H.R. 1628 has a section on page 37 that allows Trump’s appointed “Administrator” to “recover previous payments” to the states if this administrator decides that the state isn’t adequately reimbursing private insurance companies. Guess who the administrator is? Seema Verma. She is the founder and CEO of SVC Inc., a health policy consulting firm.
Guess what that 155 Bn would equally cover???? Tuition and DEBT FREE EDUCATION!! But Noooooo. They would rather have tax payers pay to insolate the insurance companies from high risk cases.
And it’s for this reason, Rhonda, Republicans put an amendment that would ban States from establishing a Single Payer Medicare for All system. It’s funny that Republicans are selling this bill as a call for “ferderalism.”
Whenever you hear a Republican say the words “block grant,” just know they’re talking about cuts but don’t want to explicitly say it.
According to @AARP, this bill would increase costs for older workers by more than $1,000 a month. healthcaredebate
The reason why insurers are leaving rural areas is that they have decided that its too expensive to provide healthcare there. They have done that in two rural areas in Washington State!
S. 1804 would guarantee universal healthcare coverage! And that includes abortion coverage! medicareforall
Lindsey Graham assures us he wants to provide Americans with quality care, but wants to do it in a way that “doesn’t bankrupt the country.” Wonder if he cares about bankrupting the country when it comes to all of the wars he wants to start and continue….
What about all the people who can’t afford insurance at all? We have private insurance death panels in this country! No one talks about this. medicareforall
Senator Cassidy in opening statement starts with old GOP chestnut that their plan is about “choice”. You don’t have choice if you can’t afford care.
Its either the For Profit Insurance companies and Big Pharma in control or the government guaranteeing every man woman and child is covered like every other country who IS ALREADY DOING IT SUCCESSFULLY! This isn’t rocket science.
Agree Georgia! There is so much focus on those that can afford some semblance of healthcare. Medicare for All will ensure that each and every American has quality care.
Republicans love to cite the Charlie Gard story. Never hear them talking about the THOUSANDS of other stories about people dying and going bankrupt due to the for-profit insurance industry.
I hope they talk about under insurance. Many people with employment or insurance through the exchange are losing their homes.
Senator Klobuchar quips that Graham/Cassidy passes the buck to the states without providing the bucks to provide care.
We have double the increase in per-capita healthcare spending since 1970 than France, Germany, and Sweden, but they get 3 more years life expectancy. medicareforall
Graham is outright lying about putting money in local hands for health care. Medicaid would be cut by a trillion dollars and impoverished Americans would be thrown off Medicaid. Basically Graham-Cassidy is a system whereby if you get sick and you are poor, you die.
Lindsey is correct. If we keep shutting down websites when people need them the most – Obamacare will fail.
Idea for drinking game: every time Graham or Cassidy lies that their plan gives you more choice, take a drink of the strongest liquor handy.
Amy Klobuchar coming in strong with the personal story – so many families have been through this. Graham is defending an “idea” that just happens to be a bill that would strip tens of millions of people of their insurance.
Senator Graham says the biggest change is giving people the chance to complain to someone who “cares” at the State level. Senator Sanders responds there plan would throw Americans off of insurance and cut Medicaid. He also advises cooperation to provide for a public option, and lowering age of eligibility for Medicare.
Lindsay and Bill are literally trying to make us afraid of “bureaucrats” that apparently can’t be trusted. Sorry, but I trust bureaucrats more than for-profit insurance companies. How dumb do they think we are?
The people that need the most help in this country would lose it. The most vulnerable people. Always a Republican target.
Senator Graham is “talking to Alaska”. That means he’s trying to bribe Senator Murkowski for her vote.
They do not mind killing off the most vulnerable.tigerpixie
It also removed the employer (large companies must offer a certain level of coverage) AND the individual mandate. (Buy insurance or receive a fine) This will raise premiums.
Senator Klobuchar hits back at Senator Graham…independent Governor of Alaska has already said the plan is a no go. She points to bipartisan effort underway to fix the ACA.
Graham says it’s ok to lose a vote for a good cause. Spinning his bill’s defeat-to-be as a heroic effort.
medicareforall is not an extreme idea. We are just way behind the other developed countries. They pay half what we do, but cover everyone! With better results.
Many people don’t realize that we are in the middle ground on healthcare, and it’s not working. We need to continue to expand access to everyone.
Graham and Cassidy look rather like scolded children as Sanders makes his Medicare for All argument.
What’s often not mentioned, that the money from the 31 states and Washington DC which opted to expand Medicaid are being distributed across all states. So governors who refused to expand Medicaid are now better off, because they’ll take some of the money from other states.
Even Rand Paul said that it’s a bill that would move money from blue states to red states.
“By 2026, block grant funding would be $83 billion, or 34 percent, below projected current law federal funding. States would be forced to sharply scale back coverage as these block grants became increasingly inadequate.” https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/cassidy-graham-amendment-would-cut-hundreds-of-billions-from-coverage-programs-cause
and the other states suffer salammorcos
Democrats should always offer concrete solutions instead of platitudes, like Amy Klobuchar is doing. She came ready to debate.
“Crucially, funding would end altogether after 2026, leaving states with massive holes in their budgets and no choice but to further reduce access to coverage.”
The Republican Governor of Nevada Brian Sandoval is opposed to this bill because as he has said: “Flexibility with reduced funding is a false choice. I will not pit seniors, children, families, the mentally ill, the critically ill, hospitals, care providers, or any other Nevadan against each other because of cuts to Nevada’s health-care delivery system proposed by the Graham-Cassidy amendment.”
Cassidy is one of these anti-government extremists who seems to believe that medical providers are going to refuse federal government money. While he also votes to sell generations in taxes to weapons manufacturers.
Senator Graham says he’ll talk with anyone – but he won’t submit his bill to the standard Senate committee and amendment process. There, talking is apparently a waste of time.
Pre-existing conditions are magically going to be covered in the states because “people care about each other.” – Graham
Lindsey Graham is unintentionally making a great argument for medicareforall. Health
Insurance makes gigantic profits for the insurance companies. Administration of Medicare costs 2%, vs 11% for our private insurance and drug companies.
Wait, did Graham just say that his plan DOESN’T plan to give taxpayer funds to private insurance companies? If I was playing the drinking game, I’d be plastered already…
Listen to the Democratic Governor from Louisiana John Bel Edwards who said after a meeting with Sen. Cassidy that:
“After a careful review of this legislation, I cannot support the Graham-Cassidy Amendment. My primary objection relates to the elimination of the Medicaid expansion program in 2020. Right now, more than 430,000 working poor people in Louisiana have access to health insurance because we chose to bring our federal tax dollars back home. We’re saving lives, money, and investing in our people to ensure they are able to receive quality healthcare. Importantly, Louisiana’s uninsured rate has dropped to nearly 10%. Undoing this progress would negatively impact our citizens and our economy.”
I agree ahampton about Cassidy. But I want to note that he’s dangerous. He’s very intelligent and he’s very deceitful. If Sep 30th timeline wasn’t on the table, this bill would’ve got the necessary 50 votes.
According to Louisiana’s Secretary of Health, Dr. Rebekah Gee, this legislation:
“Ends our successful Medicaid expansion, jeopardizing coverage for more than 433,000 individuals,” and “uniquely and disproportionally hurts Louisiana due to our … high burden of extreme poverty … The combined effects of the per capita caps and eliminating expansion would result in a projected loss of $3.2B in Federal funding through 2026 – making Louisiana the 8th biggest loser of those states affected by the Legislation and by far the poorest and sickest state affected by these cuts. All seven of the states with larger nominal cuts, including NY, TX, and CA, are far larger and wealthier.”
Great, Lindsey Graham says that insurance companies aren’t delivering. Finally, we agree! Why are you still taking their money though, Lindsey?
You heard it here folks gdavenport
Sanders makes key argument for medicareforall: dollars should go to care, not into the hands of insurance companies.
Was Lindsey Graham’s deficit-hawk concern trolling about funding Medicare also in evidence during the passage of the bipartisan recent huge military spending bill? Asking for a friend.
“The Graham-Cassidy bill would significantly reduce funding to states over the long term, particularly for states that have already expanded Medicaid,” said Caroline Pearson, senior vice president at Avalere. “States would have broad flexibility to shape their markets but would have less funding to subsidize coverage for low- and middle-income individuals.”
States can determine whether or not to cover costs associated with some preexisting conditions under this bill.
Graham: “Bernie is the most honest person in the senate.” Thanks for that snippet, Lindsey. Never going to stop using that against you. >:)
Graham keeps comparing himself to the common person, but unlike them he’ll have great insurance no matter what.
Bernie is like, “Sit down, young man.”
While Cassidy is talking about lowering premiums, a side note that under Bernie’s medicareforall, families making less than $29K would pay nothing. If you earn $50K, you would pay $844 per year – MUCH LOWER that current insurance premiums.
Senator Cassidy says “we shouldn’t squash State innovation” and yet wants to include provisions which would do just that. Senator Cassidy continues to repeat things and we need a fact checker.
Bill Cassidy: We want to give power back to the states! They’re not allowed to set up a single-payer system though—no way! States rights… er… sometimes!
Cassidy is trying to entice Sen. Collins by claiming that the ACA squashed the Maine initiative. But Sen. Collins condemnation of the bill tells a different story.
“Able to be affordable”?!?! How can they expect Governors who make hundreds of thousands a year determine what is affordable for their constituents?
Senator Klobuchar refers to Bernie’s Medicare for All plan as “one idea”; she has others. She has not co-sponsored his bill.
Thats BS Cassidy, bcz as long as we have Citizens United any elected official bows to the highest donor and NOT the peoples interests.
“I’m not making these scare stories up” seems to be a really bad basis for legislation.
As for people doing better in their state, remember that trumpcare will provide NO subsidies to help people buy insurance – instead $$ will go to block grants for each state and states are encouraged to seek waivers which would allow insurers to charge more money for pre-existing conditions.
Senator Collins keeps saying “adequate and affordable” but can’t actually give a good statement of what it means.
How much does that couple earn a year, Sen Cassidy. I went to his page. Its just Cassidy repeating the same thing, there is no evidence
I honestly don’t get this. Cassidy and Graham keep repeating that Governors must respond to their constituents. Are they suggesting Congresspersons don’t have to respond to their constituents?
When did Lindsey become such a die-hard opponent of the insurance companies? I am shocked, totally shocked.
Note for Senators Collins and Graham: States were given the option of Medicaid expansion. South Carolina did not. And only when Governor Edwards took office in Louisiana did it come into being in that state.
It always amazes me how Republicans pretend to care about us while simultaneously pushing for bills that would kill thousands of people. Excellent acting skills.
Congresspeople are unaccountable, distant beings, according to Senator Graham, following up on Salam’s point. Only people are at the state level are apparently accountable.
Um, no. Covering more people after the ACA is not saying the ACA failed. It is saying we want to cover EVERYONE. Which is the only ethical way forward. medicareforall
Honestly these words are completely hollow
And fbrienna, in fact, even a third of Republicans like Medicare for All. If one is looking for a bill that crosses across party registration, look no other.
This question is putting people against each other. Premiums rising is an issue with insurance companies. Capitalism is a problem.
No incrementalism! Medicare for All NOW! ‘Improving’ ACA is just a political fig leaf for Corportist Dems. We need to demand and not let up on the fact that the American People need Medicare for All Now!
Graham acts like no country has solved health care. But all of these have better health outcomes and single-payer:
The incumbency lock in Congress means that the re-election rate is 97%. That’s why Senator Graham can stand up there and talk about Congress, apparently without irony, as unaccounable – because it is. Got to get money out of politics.
Just a correction ahampton, not all have Single Payer. Some have other forms such as socialized medicine (UK), multi-payer (Germany) and hybrid systems (France).
The answer to the voter complaining to Sen. Klobachar that her premiums went up under ACA is highlighting that we have a FOR PROFIT health insurance system. Americans across the spectrum agree that our health care should not be at the mercy of the market run by large profitable insurance corporations.
Graham and Cassidy continue to pretend that their bill doesn’t continue the cycle of capitalism in our healthcare industry.
Sen. Cassidy is dishonestly talking about giving back power to the states to combat the profitable health insurance companies. The solution to the insanely profitable health insurance companies that allow poor Americans to die and their overpaid executives is actually medicareforall, not “power to the states”.
NO, Answer the question put to you Sen. Cassidy we don’t want your third person interpretation of what he said at some other date
Senator Cassidy is trying too hard to use red-baiting right now since he can’t land an actual point. He just argued against himself.
Wait, so you would rather people die than “commandeer” the healthcare industries profits? That is some messed up priorities!
So true drchanga
Wait, what kind of word salad is this? Now Cassidy shows his true colors. Profit is more important than people, apparently. Why not just say it?
Sen. Cassidy goes full-on red-baiting by claiming that Bernie The Socialist plans to confiscate intellectual property so that we won’t have access to the cure for cancer.
The Conservative Party of Canada is apparently a socialist party because they support Single Payer. logic
Messed up priorities!
No, Lindsey. It tells us that the problem with our healthcare system is a for-profit industry exploiting our medical needs for monetary gain.
I love how Cassidy can rail against the pharmaceutical industry one moment, but then the next, refuse to support Bernie’s bill that would allow medicare to negotiate drug prices.
The false populism of the GOP is galling: they’re not with pharma, or the insurance companies, they’re “with you”. They are bought and paid for by big business but have to constantly pretend they’re not.
Senators Graham and Cassidy are being dishonest about why the system doesn’t work and it involves insurance and pharmaceutical companies.
Sen. Graham needs some tough questions: The GCHJ bill actually eliminates ACA tax credits and destabilizes the insurance market. Over 6 million Americans ages 50-64 have coverage through the ACA exchanges and 3 million are eligible for ACA tax credits to help pay their premiums according to the AARP.
Let’s not forget, Cassidy continuously guarantees that by giving the states all of the authority people won’t be charged more, won’t lose access etc, despite the fact that he won’t be making the decisions to control that if his bills passes.
The Republican Governor of Ohio John Kasich wrote a bi-partisan letter with 10 Governors stating:
“We ask you not to consider the Graham-Cassidy-Heller-Johnson amendment and renew support for bipartisan efforts to make health care more available and affordable for all Americans. Only open, bipartisan approaches can achieve true, lasting reforms.”
The right’s plan is always to sabotage government programs in order to then be able to say “they don’t work”. They’re actively sabotaging Obamacare, and Graham is leeringly saying Medicare is about to collapse. It will if the GOP has anything to do with it.
Graham Cassidy proposals would also Eliminate enhanced federal matching funds for the Community First Choice program created by the ACA, which would cut federal funding for home- and community-based services by $12 billion, according to CBO
Although these are nachos – the analogy still works!
My husband is an Iraqi war veteran with coverage through the VA, which is so important to our family. But my daughter and myself are under-insured with high deductibles for ER visits and out of network providers. Which is why we need medicareforall!
He thinks Medicare for all will bankrupt the country and not the $700 billion that just went out for the military budget? priorities
He thinks Medicare for all will bankrupt the country and not the $700 billion that just passed for the military budget? priorities
It’s funny how the debate keeps coming back to Berniecare and Medicare for All, on both sides – Sanders is driving the terms of the debate.
24-hour corporate cable news is what brought us this – bills no one reads or reviews, senatorial debates hosted on paid TV and interrupted by Trump tweets.
The people know who is fighting for them.
No it isn’t socialized medicine. Socialized medicine is when the government runs the hospitals. Single Payer pays the hospitals, which just replaces private insurance. The hospitals remain the same. medicareforall
Medicaid. The federal/state insurance program provides health care for 20 percent of all Americans, including 40 percent of children, half of all births, 60 percent of nursing home expensesand 25 percent of mental health care. The Graham-Cassidy bill would transform the structure of Medicaid, giving states control over how they spend federal funds. The bill cuts Medicaid funding over time. States that expanded their Medicaid programs, including California and New York, would face the biggest cuts, while Texas and some states in the Deep South and West would fare better.
Sanders bashing the process: one hearing, no CBO report, three changes in the bill just today – all to change 1/6 of the economy.
Not people @billcassidy, your one friend that you only repeat the same information on your facebook page that you are saying now, that’s not evidence
You only lose out on huge expenses from the people and employers and gain actual healthcare with Medicare for all!
It isn’t just women, this bill would prevent small businesses from important tax breaks if they provide insurance that includes abortion in the coverage. So shameful. Esp since republicans are supposed to be “pro-business.”
Senator Cassidy says Democrats didn’t want to cooperate on healthcare, despute bipartisan effort that their own bill kneecapped.
I’ve seen disabled Americans being dragged out of a hearing fighting against this bill. I have yet to see the thousands with $39K premiums fighting for it.
Cassady: “I made a serious attempt to be bi-partisan, and I got zero support.”
I hope Amy and Bernie counter to this claim.
Quote of the night?
It isn’t just women, this bill would prevent small businesses from important tax breaks if they provide insurance that includes abortion in the coverage. So shameful. Esp since republicans are supposed to be “pro-business.” healthcaredebate
Graham-Cassidy denies women the right to choose Planned Parenthood as their health care provider, restricting access to birth control, cancer, screenings and regular check-ups. Neither Graham nor Cassidy have given any explanation.
Oh my God! Did Cassidy say that he wants most medicine to be Over the Counter? You know why? Because they are not covered by insurance…
Cassidy twists desire to defund Planned Parenthood as way to bring healthcare closer to rural people. Wha???
Making birth control OTC is just a way to keep it from being covered under insurance and making it a separate charge for women. While Viagra is probably still covered
Republicans will argue that the required coverage forces people to buy healthcare they won’t use, (e.g. I will never use coverage maternity care because I can’t become pregnant) but that ignores that this is the case with ALL insurance. When you say that we should restrict premium payments only to illnesses we are going to have, what you’re really saying is you want the risk pools to be so small that the insurance is untenable and too expensive. And why aren’t Republicans making the same case for coverage of prostate cancer or freaking Viagra? Double standard.
Wait, is he really spreading the debunked Planned Parenthood aborted fetuses thing? Did anyone else hear that?
We’re going back to the ‘ol “PP is selling body parts of aborted children” argument are we? Good god.
@LindseyGrahamSC and @BillCassidy’s bill allows women to be charged higher premiums than men. healthcaredebate
Wait, is he really spreading the debunked Planned Parenthood aborted fetuses baby parts thing? Did anyone else hear that?
Yes! Medicare for All kills the Hyde bill!
Brieanna is absolutely right. And the GOP is deliberately demeaning and demonizing Medicaid recipients. See the last CNN HealthcareTown Hall where Senator Cruz kept saying it wasn’t going to be “Medicare for All” but “Medicaid for All” as an attempt to tarnish it.
How compassionate is it to remove Planned Parenthood services for one year? How many people will die because of this? nograhamcassidy
Senator Klobuchar: Senator Sanders and I have the same goal re: Bringing more affordable options to all Americans.
CNN, you are supposed to be a news channel! How can anyone let outright lies go unchallenged and still be considered an outlet for journalism!
FYI, “buying in” to medicaid or medicare doesn’t supply universal healthcare. The public option would only be available to those who can AFFORD to buy in to it. healthcaredebate medicareforall
Exactly gdavenport !
Cassidy is outright lying about higher costs under medicareforall. For example, under Bernie’s bill, out of pocket costs for drugs will be limited to maximum $250 in copays per year.
Good catch mfigueredo. It’s like Medicare for All is a curse of something like that.
Totally agree tigerpixie
Don’t worry, rwalker… the free market would never fail us! /s
What the CBO said: In moving to block grants, “enrollment in Medicaid would be substantially lower because of large reductions in federal funding,” CBO said. “The number of people with comprehensive health insurance that covers high-cost medical events would be reduced by millions compared with the baseline projections for each year during the decade.”
Cassidy is lying. 32 million is not because of the individual mandate, it represents a part of it. Medicaid expansion had a bigger impact.
Quite the false sense of security mfigueredo
Senators mentions short-term solution of a public option: exactly what Joe Lieberman and Co. helped kill in 2009.
More fairy dust on dog poop, Senator Cassidy. Its amazing how someone can make something that is going to hurt so many people sound like its something that you should be excited to support. 🤔
Correction mfigueredo. Bill Cassidy is … a sleazy Republican.
For sure, rwalker. It’s hilarious how they expect us to have faith in the free market when it comes to healthcare. It had its chance and failed miserably.
Bernie is so on-point. These vultures are supposed to be asking for votes for their bill, instead he’s got them refusing to back his own non-nonsense healthcare reform measures.
And Cassidy, governors hate your bill.
Cassidy and Graham should set up an altar to the states and start burning incense to it. It’s like they’ve never given up on the “states rights” argument.
Sen Klobuchar “All 50 Medicaid Directors opposed this bill”
“In fact, Senator Graham said on the Senate floor that funding for California, a state that with a highly effective state-based marketplace and a successful Medicaid expansion, would eventually be cut by 38 percent.”
When you follow the link for the CBO you get an “interpretation” from Surprise Surprise, Sen @BillCassidy PLEASE READ the PDF attached and not his Summary
Can’t believe we have to debate healthcare for all of US still! Insurance is a scam and is draining working men and women of resources like a home to live in. I challenge everyone to go to the Go Fund Me site and see how many are desperate for help due medical bills.
Yes WE WILL gdavenport
While Graham and Cassidy attacked Medicare of All and said it wouldn’t work for the United States, ironically it’s good for businesses. Very good for businesses.
I reported this before in an article:
High health care costs also put the United States at a competitive disadvantage globally. Autoweek reports that “Japan’s health care gives Toyota edge [over General Motors]”. General Motors could have launched 3 additional new-model programs if it didn’t have to pay for its retirees’ health care.
Opening new section on the topic of the nation’s opoid epidemic. The GOP wants to cut Medicaid, which helps fund treatment. Let’s see how they try to squirm out of this.
Graham blows off initial questioner on opoid addiction: “Medicaid didn’t save you.” That might be the most prickish moment of tonight.
Exactly, honeylight. At this point millennials won’t be able to retire until we’re 100.
mfigueredo IF you live that long
SENATE: GRAHAM-CASSIDY PLAN
The bill would get rid of Medicaid expansion money by 2026 and convert all Medicaid spending to a per capita cap, which means that federal money per person will be lower than it is now. States would have to decide whether to make up that funding, trim services or limit who can get Medicaid.
Sanders: ‘When you cut off Medicaid and don’t get funding to the states, more people will die. This is absolutely crazy.’ Crazy that he has to say something so obvious.
“It won’t be my fault if your Gov doesn’t want you to have it, then too bad” Essentially what @billCassidy just said
This is how Bill Cassidy gives himself extra time when he needs to think of a way to wiggle out of the corner he was backed into: “I use to be a physician, here’s what I did…”
Cassidy on opoid addiction: “give states flexibility to cut down on waiting lists.” That means DENY CARE, Doctor.
Disability advocates were arrested today opposing this bill, Senator Klobuchar. That should be acknowledged by someone at this debate.
Lmao Sooo true mfigueredo
The pharmaceutical companies Need to pay for rehabilitation for opioid addiction!
Everyone should have access to affordable healthcare. Not “affordable” insurance. Insurance companies cost American billions in waste due to administrative costs and CEO pay. It is time for HR 676 and S. 1804. medicareforall healthcaredebate
Its totally dishonest that Cassidy and Graham both keep saying “leave it to the states” ignoring the fact that states will NOT be able to maintain the increased coverage afforded by the ACA. Block grant funding to the states will not be able to provide the current level of ACA subsidies.
Going to call up my Obamacare guy or gal tomorrow to check on my coverage; Senator Graham’s got me rattled.
My wife, who is not into politics at all, just told me: I don’t understand Republicans… I feel that they believe in their own lies. I feel they care about the debt of the country over the lives of the people.
khackbarth find out who my guy or gal is please
salammorcos I believe she may be right
The nice thing about this particular debate is not only are the GOP vultures losing on this bill, we know the people are on the side of Medicare-for-All. Now we just need to put fear for their seats into as many non-reformist incumbents as possible.
Bernie: Our job is to come together and conclude that we cannot be the only nation that does not have Single Payer Healthcare. healthcaredebate
Closing statements. Sanders: GOP is legislation opposed by every major healthcare organization in the country. Our job is to defeat this proposal, and then move on to see healthcare as a right.
Does Sen. Lindsey Graham realize that he is part of the Government that he is trying to make everyone fear?
Solution: We don’t have to throw more money at insurance companies, Senator Graham – you can support medicareforall. You showed your colors in claiming Welfare Reform was a “success” – that “success” was on the backs of poor Americans. Thats exactly what you are proposing here.
Graham, and I’m paraphrasing “If we don’t repeal Obamacare, something something socialism is scary.”
Senator Graham: Medicare, Medicaid is driving the debt.
Me: No Sen. Graham the bloated budget for the military industrial complex is driving our debt. healthcaredebate
@ are you telling us that the Government isn’t doing the best it can for its citizens? Why don’t you tell your fellow politicians to do better?
Graham winds up with more faux-populist breast-beating against the insurance companies. What a hero of the people.
Does anyone feel that this debate would impact public opinion in any way? or the opinions of the Republicans who are voting “no”?
Amy Klobuchar: “Put the politics aside and the people first.” Take your own advice and cosponsor Bernie’s bill, Amy.
How does the patient have the “power” if the patient has a pre-existing condition and can’t afford medical care after his or her state has opted out of covering those because there is not enough money in the block grant?
So let me get this straight Senator Cassidy. If we choose single-payer healthcare we are not choosing ourselves? Sounds like the Jedi mind trick to me. healthcaredebate
As always, we have to do a poll.
salammorcos I don’t think either because Republicans don’t think it goes far enough to undo “Obamacare”. I don’t think anything said tonight from Graham or Cassidy would sway anyone who wasn’t already on board.
It’s just such a poor premise, that we shouldn’t pull together to help the sick. Amoral and cruel. Even these vultures’ own colleagues see it.
Imagine if the Democrats were united around Medicare For All instead of Sanders having to be the only person on the stage arguing for it tonight? Imagine how much stronger their position would come across? You may say I’m a dreamer…
honeylight, I’m ok with that. It means “No” to the bill. I’ll take that any day.
salammorcos I think they lost points when they refused to answer Sanders when he asked them directly if they could agree to the few items and they wouldn’t answer
The problem with Graham-Cassidy is that both those senators think that care for sick people should be a for-profit activity.
salammorcos me too!
We’re all together in this, rwalker!
Basic takeaway from tonight: Cassidy and Graham know their bill is going to fail. But like a pair of creepy ex-boyfriends, they’ll be back. And so will we for another night of live blogging. Good night!
A few years ago, a $15 minimum wage and medicareforall were considered impossible fantasies. We all need to keep dreaming to make mfa happen.
Thank you all for a wonderful discussion! See you out on the community while we fight to pass Medicare For All!
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