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Live Coverage of CNN Healthcare Debate

Credit: Mike Ramsey

Welcome to Progressive Army’s live coverage of CNN’s healthcare townhall-style debate. Our coverage will begin at 8:30 pm ET / 5:30 pm PT, 30 minutes prior to the start of the debate, and will continue throughout the event. A special post-show will follow immediately after, streaming on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter.

This live blog will include commentary and analysis from Progressive Army’s Benjamin Dixon, Anoa Changa, Salam Morcos, David Grossman, Jami Miller, Pamela Getz, Mike Redwine, and Kurt Hackbarth, as well as special guests Mike Figueredo (The Humanist Report), Katie Halper (The Katie Halper Show), Adriel Hampton (The Adriel Hampton Group), Georgia Davenport (Whole Washington), Brienna Fisher (Democracy for America), Natalie HolmeElsberg (LEAP),Rhonda Walker (Washington Berniecrats Coalition and The Party For US), and Tamborine Borrelli (Candidate for Congress, Washington State).

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20178:30 pm

Welcome to our live coverage of tonight’s CNN Town Hall. Sens. Cassidy and Graham will defend a bill they introduced (we’re at version 4 right now) that would gut Obamacare. Sens. Sanders and Klobuchar will explain the negative impacts of the bill.

Our team at the Progressive Army, joined by a great panel of special guests will cover the event and highlight any fallacies (i.e. bullsh**) and provide insight and commentary. We hope that you enjoy the coverage.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20178:30 pm

Checking in and ready to go!

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20178:34 pm

How’d you like to have to debate your bill when you’ve just lost the vote needed for passage?

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20178:39 pm

Are you ready to rumble!?!!?!

Katie Halper Katie Halper September 25, 20178:40 pm

Hillary Pre Party on @msnbc is straight 🔥🔥🔥 cnndebate

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20178:40 pm

Checking in. A pleasure to be joining the discussion with this great progressive community.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20178:41 pm

Excited to participate in this live blog (my first I’ve done). And such an important subject! H.R. 1628 could result in millions uninsured according to the CBO report. We need to make sure everyone has access to healthcare, and this bill would do the opposite.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20178:41 pm

I’m excited to be here!

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20178:42 pm

Happy to be here! And YES Anoa, I’m reaaaaaaaady toooooo RUMMMMMMMMBLE!!! Lol! 🔥😂

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20178:42 pm

Hello Everyone

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 20178:42 pm

Hi, everyone! It’s great to be here with all of you!

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20178:43 pm

Picking up a CNN livestream here

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20178:43 pm

Hi all! I’m excited to be here!

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 20178:43 pm

https://twitter.com/NationalADAPT/status/912459485477851137

People whose lives would be strongly affected by the Graham-Cassidy bill were dragged out of wheelchairs and arrested today.

David Grossman David Grossman September 25, 20178:43 pm

30 minutes until the debate starts and alot has happened over the weekend and today leading up to this.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20178:44 pm

tigerpixie

Yes
Saw that! Could not believe what was going on.
David Grossman David Grossman September 25, 20178:44 pm

Adriel, to your point about Collins, it should be interesting how Cassidy and Graham paint this when the bill is all but dead.

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna September 25, 20178:45 pm

I’m so excited to join this amazing panel tonight. Medicare for All is the end goal, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t fight to defend and strengthen what we have now.

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 20178:45 pm

People whose lives would be strongly affected by the Graham-Cassidy bill were dragged out of wheelchairs and arrested today.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20178:46 pm

You are right on point Brieanna

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20178:47 pm

Totally agree, Brieanna. We can walk and chew gum at the same time!

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20178:47 pm

Senator Sanders’ views on the need for universal coverage through a Medicare for All program are well known, and Senators Cassidy and Graham have laid their bare their healthcare views with their disastrous attempt to pass the current bill that bears their names. But many people might not be as aware of where Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), who will be joining the debate, stands on the issue. Here’s what her website says about it: https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/health-care

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20178:49 pm

“Leader” McConnell sounds like the name of a dictator in low budget movie. LOL. These people are so disingenuous in how they frame Medicare which has popularity across both sides of the aisle.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20178:49 pm

And we shouldn’t let it slide that of the Republicans against they aren’t necessarily against it for the right reasons. They still want to dismantle ACA

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20178:49 pm

Doesn’t seem like Klobuchar supports single-payer, based on what I got from skimming that article.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20178:50 pm

Thanks Brieanna. Many have accused Medicare for All to be a “Start for scratch” type of legislation, which is a fallacy that needs to be countered.

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20178:50 pm

I don’t think so mfigueredo I think tonight is a rallying against ACA repeal.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20178:50 pm

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/rand-paul-lindsey-graham-bill-cassidy-bill/2017/09/19/id/814409/

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20178:51 pm

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/rand-paul-lindsey-graham-bill-cassidy-bill/2017/09/19/id/814409/

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20178:51 pm

You’re most likely right, Anoa. I hope Bernie is able to monopolize this discussion and talk about single-payer.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20178:51 pm

But once the repeal/replace effort is dead, we need to make phone calls to our Senators to support S. 1804 (Bernie’s Medicare for All). medicareforall

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20178:52 pm
Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20178:53 pm

“CBO: Number of insured ‘reduced by millions’ under GOP health bill” and CNN just said the bill appears to be dead because of CBO report.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/politics/cbo-graham-cassidy/index.html

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20178:53 pm

Bill Cassidy was literally yawning while disabled protesters who need Medicaid were physically dragged away from him. https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/912380808308170752

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20178:53 pm

So fun fact about the Graham Cassidy bill,


The bill passed the pre-existing conditions question on to the states. Given that the vast majority of state legislatures are controlled by Republicans, this does not bode well for the majority of Americans with pre-existing conditions.
Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20178:53 pm

Yep, this will be about defending the ACA, presumably exclusively.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20178:55 pm

The bill (Graham Cassidy) would make drastic cuts to Medicaid over the course of ten years. This would hit states that have chosen to expand their Medicaid enrollment after the ACA was passed the hardest. (WA, CA, NY, etc.)

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20178:55 pm

One more reason why Paula Jean is the Senator WV needs in 2018! I’m with you sis!

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20178:55 pm

Graham-Cassidy also aims to prohibit states from implementing single-payer themselves. Yet, Lindsey Graham is still pretending to be a “federalist.” The hypocrisy hurts my brain.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20178:55 pm

Another thing Tamborine, the first few pages of this bill are all about preventing tax credits for anyone who has abortion coverage in their insurance. This includes small biz that has abortion in their insurance coverage. No small biz tax credit!

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20178:56 pm

Just a few more minutes til showtime! Time to put a nail in this repeal coffin once and for all!

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20178:57 pm

About five minutes to showtime. Bernie has become a CNN star of sorts – safely after the election as for the mainstream media is concerned. But that means he knows this format well and, together with two years of presidential debate experience behind him, this should provide him with an advantage once the cameras are rolling.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20178:57 pm

Because they have essentially made being a woman a pre-existing condition but even without I and my husband are walking pre-existing conditions

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20178:58 pm

And there are games too!!!!

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20178:59 pm

According to the Washington Post, there is a $155 billion bailout to the insurance industry over the course of three years (2018-2020) to help them pay for the “high risk pools” associated with people with pre-existing conditions. (Even though we don’t know how many people with pre-existing conditions will be covered…I think it’s meant to be an incentive to cover them)

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:00 pm

cover them at what cost to the patient, though

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:00 pm

Senator Rick Santorum is currently warming up for the GOP on Anderson Cooper with an outright lie about block grants. Block grant funding will be insufficient to maintain coverage levels equivalent to the ACA. The block grant would be $243 billion less between 2020 and 2026 than projected federal spending for the Medicaid expansion and marketplace subsidies under the ACA.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:00 pm

We are making headway here in Washington state through Whole Washington with our single payer initiative. We have leading economist Gerald Freedman finishing up his portion on how Washington will pay for coverage. This will be the most in-depth initiative I’ve seen to date and can be used in conjunction with S1804.

We need all the support we can get!
gdavenport is heading this amazing fight!
Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:01 pm

I may be getting into the weeds, but H.R. 1628 has a section on page 37 that allows Trump’s appointed “Administrator” to “recover previous payments” to the states if this administrator decides that the state isn’t adequately reimbursing private insurance companies. Guess who the administrator is? Seema Verma. She is the founder and CEO of SVC Inc., a health policy consulting firm.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:01 pm

Guess what that 155 Bn would equally cover???? Tuition and DEBT FREE EDUCATION!! But Noooooo. They would rather have tax payers pay to insolate the insurance companies from high risk cases.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:02 pm

Getting started.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:02 pm

And it’s for this reason, Rhonda, Republicans put an amendment that would ban States from establishing a Single Payer Medicare for All system. It’s funny that Republicans are selling this bill as a call for “ferderalism.”

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:02 pm

Lindsey Graham doesn’t look too happy to be with us tonight.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:02 pm

Whenever you hear a Republican say the words “block grant,” just know they’re talking about cuts but don’t want to explicitly say it.

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:02 pm

We are not going back to the days when being a woman was a pre-existing condition. healthcaredebate

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:03 pm

According to @AARP, this bill would increase costs for older workers by more than $1,000 a month. healthcaredebate

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:03 pm

To be fair, Lindsey never looks happy.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:03 pm

Healthcare is supposed to be debated in 1:15 answers and 30 second soundbites. Ah, television.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:04 pm

We have to support Planned Parenthood

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:04 pm

The reason why insurers are leaving rural areas is that they have decided that its too expensive to provide healthcare there. They have done that in two rural areas in Washington State!

Insurers for individual health plans shut out Grays Harbor

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:04 pm

singlepayer!!

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:05 pm

Sanders: Every single major organization think that [the Cassidy-Graham] bill is a disastrous bill.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:05 pm

We can’t give the power to the insurance companies that is for sure

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:05 pm

S. 1804 would guarantee universal healthcare coverage! And that includes abortion coverage! medicareforall

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:05 pm

singlepayercantwait

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:05 pm

Senator Sanders says long-term focus must be on guaranteeing Healthcare is a right.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:06 pm

Lindsey Graham assures us he wants to provide Americans with quality care, but wants to do it in a way that “doesn’t bankrupt the country.” Wonder if he cares about bankrupting the country when it comes to all of the wars he wants to start and continue….

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:06 pm

No, Bernie, you speak for most of us!

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:06 pm

Bernie pulls no punches in opening statement, on his feet.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:07 pm

What about all the people who can’t afford insurance at all? We have private insurance death panels in this country! No one talks about this. medicareforall

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:08 pm

Senator Cassidy in opening statement starts with old GOP chestnut that their plan is about “choice”. You don’t have choice if you can’t afford care.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:08 pm

Its either the For Profit Insurance companies and Big Pharma in control or the government guaranteeing every man woman and child is covered like every other country who IS ALREADY DOING IT SUCCESSFULLY! This isn’t rocket science.

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:08 pm

Agree Georgia! There is so much focus on those that can afford some semblance of healthcare. Medicare for All will ensure that each and every American has quality care.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:08 pm

Republicans love to cite the Charlie Gard story. Never hear them talking about the THOUSANDS of other stories about people dying and going bankrupt due to the for-profit insurance industry.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:08 pm

I hope they talk about under insurance. Many people with employment or insurance through the exchange are losing their homes.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:09 pm

Senator Klobuchar quips that Graham/Cassidy passes the buck to the states without providing the bucks to provide care.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:09 pm

How is giving it to the state not still giving the decision over to the government?

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:10 pm

We have double the increase in per-capita healthcare spending since 1970 than France, Germany, and Sweden, but they get 3 more years life expectancy. medicareforall

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:10 pm

This system destroys Medicaid!

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:10 pm

Graham is outright lying about putting money in local hands for health care. Medicaid would be cut by a trillion dollars and impoverished Americans would be thrown off Medicaid. Basically Graham-Cassidy is a system whereby if you get sick and you are poor, you die.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:10 pm
The bill is essentially a concerted attack on the poorest and sickest people in the country.
Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:11 pm

Lindsey is correct. If we keep shutting down websites when people need them the most – Obamacare will fail.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:11 pm

Idea for drinking game: every time Graham or Cassidy lies that their plan gives you more choice, take a drink of the strongest liquor handy.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:11 pm

Amy Klobuchar coming in strong with the personal story – so many families have been through this. Graham is defending an “idea” that just happens to be a bill that would strip tens of millions of people of their insurance.

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:12 pm

Senator Graham says the biggest change is giving people the chance to complain to someone who “cares” at the State level. Senator Sanders responds there plan would throw Americans off of insurance and cut Medicaid. He also advises cooperation to provide for a public option, and lowering age of eligibility for Medicare.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:12 pm

Lindsay and Bill are literally trying to make us afraid of “bureaucrats” that apparently can’t be trusted. Sorry, but I trust bureaucrats more than for-profit insurance companies. How dumb do they think we are?

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 20179:12 pm

The people that need the most help in this country would lose it. The most vulnerable people. Always a Republican target.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:12 pm

Sorry, Bernie. These are not “wonderful gentlemen.” They’re monsters.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:13 pm

Graham is very excited to be learning about health care and other states.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:13 pm

Senator Graham is “talking to Alaska”. That means he’s trying to bribe Senator Murkowski for her vote.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:13 pm

Agreed mfigueredo

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:13 pm

They do not mind killing off the most vulnerable.tigerpixie

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:13 pm

It also removed the employer (large companies must offer a certain level of coverage) AND the individual mandate. (Buy insurance or receive a fine) This will raise premiums.

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:13 pm

Senator Klobuchar hits back at Senator Graham…independent Governor of Alaska has already said the plan is a no go. She points to bipartisan effort underway to fix the ACA.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:14 pm

Graham says it’s ok to lose a vote for a good cause. Spinning his bill’s defeat-to-be as a heroic effort.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:14 pm

Sounds like Graham thinks the fewer systems the better. Boy is he going to be surprised.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:16 pm

medicareforall is not an extreme idea. We are just way behind the other developed countries. They pay half what we do, but cover everyone! With better results.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:16 pm

The state is still government what power does it give the patients?

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:16 pm

How can you possibly “return power” to the States when you are cutting off their funding?

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:17 pm

Many people don’t realize that we are in the middle ground on healthcare, and it’s not working. We need to continue to expand access to everyone.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:17 pm

Graham and Cassidy look rather like scolded children as Sanders makes his Medicare for All argument.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:17 pm
The Ten so-called essential health needs lined out in the ACA that all plans must include (mental health care, maternity care, etc.) are also left up to the states to decide whether they are really “essential.”
Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:17 pm

What’s often not mentioned, that the money from the 31 states and Washington DC which opted to expand Medicaid are being distributed across all states. So governors who refused to expand Medicaid are now better off, because they’ll take some of the money from other states.

Even Rand Paul said that it’s a bill that would move money from blue states to red states.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:17 pm

khackbarth

Exactly. What the hell? No ACA for anyone unless they need your vote. Alaska would keep coverage. Legal but unethical bribe 🙁
Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:17 pm

and the other states suffer

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:18 pm

“By 2026, block grant funding would be $83 billion, or 34 percent, below projected current law federal funding. States would be forced to sharply scale back coverage as these block grants became increasingly inadequate.” https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/cassidy-graham-amendment-would-cut-hundreds-of-billions-from-coverage-programs-cause

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:18 pm

http://www.arklatexhomepage.com/news/local-news/former-ar-gov-beebe-new-health-care-bill-will-end-arkansas-works/818223017

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:18 pm

Georgia’s stat says it all.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:18 pm

and the other states suffer salammorcos

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:19 pm

Mentioning Alaska again

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:19 pm

Democrats should always offer concrete solutions instead of platitudes, like Amy Klobuchar is doing. She came ready to debate.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:19 pm

“Crucially, funding would end altogether after 2026, leaving states with massive holes in their budgets and no choice but to further reduce access to coverage.”

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/cassidy-graham-amendment-would-cut-hundreds-of-billions-from-coverage-programs-cause

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:19 pm

Bernie is like WHOA!

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:20 pm

  • The Republican Governor of Nevada Brian Sandoval is opposed to this bill because as he has said: “Flexibility with reduced funding is a false choice. I will not pit seniors, children, families, the mentally ill, the critically ill, hospitals, care providers, or any other Nevadan against each other because of cuts to Nevada’s health-care delivery system proposed by the Graham-Cassidy amendment.”

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:20 pm

No Graham, pre-existing condition will not be covered. That’s such a lie.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:20 pm

Cassidy is one of these anti-government extremists who seems to believe that medical providers are going to refuse federal government money. While he also votes to sell generations in taxes to weapons manufacturers.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:20 pm

Senator Graham says he’ll talk with anyone – but he won’t submit his bill to the standard Senate committee and amendment process. There, talking is apparently a waste of time.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:20 pm

Watch Graham sign on to Bernie’s bill.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:21 pm

Bromance

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:21 pm

Pre-existing conditions are magically going to be covered in the states because “people care about each other.” – Graham

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:21 pm

Lindsey Graham is unintentionally making a great argument for medicareforall. Health
Insurance makes gigantic profits for the insurance companies. Administration of Medicare costs 2%, vs 11% for our private insurance and drug companies.

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 20179:21 pm

Wait, did Graham just say that his plan DOESN’T plan to give taxpayer funds to private insurance companies? If I was playing the drinking game, I’d be plastered already…

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:21 pm

bernieisthemosthonestpersoninthesenate 🙂

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:22 pm

Canada $5,000 per Capita covers everyone

USA $10,000 per Capita almost 30 million NOT INSURED
Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:22 pm

  • Listen to the Democratic Governor from Louisiana John Bel Edwards who said after a meeting with Sen. Cassidy that:

  • “After a careful review of this legislation, I cannot support the Graham-Cassidy Amendment. My primary objection relates to the elimination of the Medicaid expansion program in 2020. Right now, more than 430,000 working poor people in Louisiana have access to health insurance because we chose to bring our federal tax dollars back home. We’re saving lives, money, and investing in our people to ensure they are able to receive quality healthcare. Importantly, Louisiana’s uninsured rate has dropped to nearly 10%. Undoing this progress would negatively impact our citizens and our economy.”

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:22 pm

I agree ahampton about Cassidy. But I want to note that he’s dangerous. He’s very intelligent and he’s very deceitful. If Sep 30th timeline wasn’t on the table, this bill would’ve got the necessary 50 votes.

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:22 pm

  • According to Louisiana’s Secretary of Health, Dr. Rebekah Gee, this legislation:

  • “Ends our successful Medicaid expansion, jeopardizing coverage for more than 433,000 individuals,” and “uniquely and disproportionally hurts Louisiana due to our … high burden of extreme poverty … The combined effects of the per capita caps and eliminating expansion would result in a projected loss of $3.2B in Federal funding through 2026 – making Louisiana the 8th biggest loser of those states affected by the Legislation and by far the poorest and sickest state affected by these cuts. All seven of the states with larger nominal cuts, including NY, TX, and CA, are far larger and wealthier.”

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:22 pm

Great, Lindsey Graham says that insurance companies aren’t delivering. Finally, we agree! Why are you still taking their money though, Lindsey?

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:22 pm

You heard it here folks gdavenport

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:22 pm

Sanders makes key argument for medicareforall: dollars should go to care, not into the hands of insurance companies.

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:23 pm

Was Lindsey Graham’s deficit-hawk concern trolling about funding Medicare also in evidence during the passage of the bipartisan recent huge military spending bill? Asking for a friend.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:23 pm

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/09/24/552891450/biggest-flash-points-in-the-graham-cassidy-health-care-bill

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:23 pm

“The Graham-Cassidy bill would significantly reduce funding to states over the long term, particularly for states that have already expanded Medicaid,” said Caroline Pearson, senior vice president at Avalere. “States would have broad flexibility to shape their markets but would have less funding to subsidize coverage for low- and middle-income individuals.”

http://avalere.com/expertise/managed-care/insights/graham-cassidy-heller-johnson-bill-would-reduce-federal-funding-to-sta

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:24 pm

States can determine whether or not to cover costs associated with some preexisting conditions under this bill.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/cassidy-graham-explainer/?utm_term=.618b72643beb

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:24 pm

Graham: “Bernie is the most honest person in the senate.” Thanks for that snippet, Lindsey. Never going to stop using that against you. >:)

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:24 pm

Graham’s crack about “Medicare for Nobody” falls on a stony silence by the audience.

David Grossman David Grossman September 25, 20179:24 pm

Graham keeps comparing himself to the common person, but unlike them he’ll have great insurance no matter what.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:25 pm

Bernie is like, “Sit down, young man.”

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:25 pm

While Cassidy is talking about lowering premiums, a side note that under Bernie’s medicareforall, families making less than $29K would pay nothing. If you earn $50K, you would pay $844 per year – MUCH LOWER that current insurance premiums.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:26 pm

Increased premiums for pre existing conditions IF they get covered AT ALL.

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:26 pm

Senator Cassidy says “we shouldn’t squash State innovation” and yet wants to include provisions which would do just that. Senator Cassidy continues to repeat things and we need a fact checker.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:26 pm

Bill Cassidy: We want to give power back to the states! They’re not allowed to set up a single-payer system though—no way! States rights… er… sometimes!

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:26 pm

Cassidy is trying to entice Sen. Collins by claiming that the ACA squashed the Maine initiative. But Sen. Collins condemnation of the bill tells a different story.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:27 pm

“Able to be affordable”?!?! How can they expect Governors who make hundreds of thousands a year determine what is affordable for their constituents?

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:28 pm

Senator Klobuchar refers to Bernie’s Medicare for All plan as “one idea”; she has others. She has not co-sponsored his bill.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:28 pm

Thats BS Cassidy, bcz as long as we have Citizens United any elected official bows to the highest donor and NOT the peoples interests.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:28 pm

“I’m not making these scare stories up” seems to be a really bad basis for legislation.

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:28 pm

As for people doing better in their state, remember that trumpcare will provide NO subsidies to help people buy insurance – instead $$ will go to block grants for each state and states are encouraged to seek waivers which would allow insurers to charge more money for pre-existing conditions.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:28 pm

Fifteen governors supporting is 30% of governors. That is failing stats there!

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:29 pm

Senator Collins keeps saying “adequate and affordable” but can’t actually give a good statement of what it means.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:29 pm

How much does that couple earn a year, Sen Cassidy. I went to his page. Its just Cassidy repeating the same thing, there is no evidence

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:29 pm

I honestly don’t get this. Cassidy and Graham keep repeating that Governors must respond to their constituents. Are they suggesting Congresspersons don’t have to respond to their constituents?

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:30 pm

When did Lindsey become such a die-hard opponent of the insurance companies? I am shocked, totally shocked.

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:30 pm

Note for Senators Collins and Graham: States were given the option of Medicaid expansion. South Carolina did not. And only when Governor Edwards took office in Louisiana did it come into being in that state.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:31 pm

“Just a couple of points” Bernie says, then Bernie berns them all…medicareforall

Benjamin Dixon Benjamin Dixon September 25, 20179:31 pm

They always conveniently leave out that fact, Anoa.

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:31 pm

Bernie’s right 20% support grahamcassidybill, but 51% support single-payer.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:31 pm

Bernie just won the debate in that statement.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:32 pm

It always amazes me how Republicans pretend to care about us while simultaneously pushing for bills that would kill thousands of people. Excellent acting skills.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:32 pm
Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:32 pm

Congresspeople are unaccountable, distant beings, according to Senator Graham, following up on Salam’s point. Only people are at the state level are apparently accountable.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:32 pm

Um, no. Covering more people after the ACA is not saying the ACA failed. It is saying we want to cover EVERYONE. Which is the only ethical way forward. medicareforall

Benjamin Dixon Benjamin Dixon September 25, 20179:33 pm

Democrats need to thank Bernie Sanders for this. But they won’t.

David Grossman David Grossman September 25, 20179:33 pm

Honestly these words are completely hollow

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:33 pm

Senator Sanders gets huge applause for line about building upon and improving ACA.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:33 pm

Medicare for all would fix that problem

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:33 pm

And fbrienna, in fact, even a third of Republicans like Medicare for All. If one is looking for a bill that crosses across party registration, look no other.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:33 pm

Yes! Bernie is on 🔥!

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:33 pm

This question is putting people against each other. Premiums rising is an issue with insurance companies. Capitalism is a problem.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:33 pm

No incrementalism! Medicare for All NOW! ‘Improving’ ACA is just a political fig leaf for Corportist Dems. We need to demand and not let up on the fact that the American People need Medicare for All Now!

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:34 pm

Graham acts like no country has solved health care. But all of these have better health outcomes and single-payer:

Benjamin Dixon Benjamin Dixon September 25, 20179:35 pm

If Amy Klobuchar doesn’t reject the premise of this woman’s question I’m going to lose more hair.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:35 pm

This lady just asked Klobuchar why we should take care of the poor, basically, didn’t she? Oh lord.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:35 pm

The incumbency lock in Congress means that the re-election rate is 97%. That’s why Senator Graham can stand up there and talk about Congress, apparently without irony, as unaccounable – because it is. Got to get money out of politics.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:35 pm

We need to fight to keep the ACA all while making Medicare for All a reality.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:35 pm

Just a correction ahampton, not all have Single Payer. Some have other forms such as socialized medicine (UK), multi-payer (Germany) and hybrid systems (France).

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:35 pm

The answer to the voter complaining to Sen. Klobachar that her premiums went up under ACA is highlighting that we have a FOR PROFIT health insurance system. Americans across the spectrum agree that our health care should not be at the mercy of the market run by large profitable insurance corporations.

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:36 pm

Graham and Cassidy continue to pretend that their bill doesn’t continue the cycle of capitalism in our healthcare industry.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:36 pm

Now Cassidy is going after the profits of big pharma – everyone’s a populist tonight.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:37 pm

Yes! Lets join every other major country and negotiate drug prices!! medicareforall

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:37 pm

1 out 5 cant afford the medicine they need!

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:37 pm

Sen. Cassidy is dishonestly talking about giving back power to the states to combat the profitable health insurance companies. The solution to the insanely profitable health insurance companies that allow poor Americans to die and their overpaid executives is actually medicareforall, not “power to the states”.

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:37 pm

I heard “socialist”. DRINK!

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:37 pm

NO, Answer the question put to you Sen. Cassidy we don’t want your third person interpretation of what he said at some other date

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:38 pm

Take a drink, those who are playing the game: Cassidy says the power is going back to you. Har.

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:38 pm

Senator Cassidy is trying too hard to use red-baiting right now since he can’t land an actual point. He just argued against himself.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:38 pm

Wait, so you would rather people die than “commandeer” the healthcare industries profits? That is some messed up priorities!

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:38 pm

So true drchanga

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 20179:38 pm

Wait, what kind of word salad is this? Now Cassidy shows his true colors. Profit is more important than people, apparently. Why not just say it?

Katie Halper Katie Halper September 25, 20179:38 pm

Wait, which state does the Grim Reaper represent? healthcaredebate cnndebate aca medicareforall

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:39 pm

Drug prices are HALF in Canada

Benjamin Dixon Benjamin Dixon September 25, 20179:39 pm

Is this fool, Cassidy serious?

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:39 pm

Sen. Cassidy goes full-on red-baiting by claiming that Bernie The Socialist plans to confiscate intellectual property so that we won’t have access to the cure for cancer.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:40 pm

Zealotry in defense of greed is no virtue.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:40 pm

Is the anthem playing somewhere? they are all standing

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:40 pm

The Conservative Party of Canada is apparently a socialist party because they support Single Payer. logic

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:40 pm

Exactly gdavenport
Messed up priorities!

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:40 pm

No its explaining why our insurance costs are so high. The problems didn’t start with ACA

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:41 pm

Closer to the patient but not TO the patient.

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:41 pm

No, Lindsey. It tells us that the problem with our healthcare system is a for-profit industry exploiting our medical needs for monetary gain.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:41 pm

I love how Cassidy can rail against the pharmaceutical industry one moment, but then the next, refuse to support Bernie’s bill that would allow medicare to negotiate drug prices.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:41 pm

Lets reform Medicare to Medicare for ALL

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:42 pm

It tells you that Healthcare and Profit go together as well as Corporate and Media! @leecamp

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:42 pm

We do. medicareforall

Benjamin Dixon Benjamin Dixon September 25, 20179:42 pm
Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:42 pm

The false populism of the GOP is galling: they’re not with pharma, or the insurance companies, they’re “with you”. They are bought and paid for by big business but have to constantly pretend they’re not.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:43 pm

Lindsey needs a break lol

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:43 pm

Graham is willing to pay more because he makes six figures, what about the rest of the country?

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:43 pm

Senators Graham and Cassidy are being dishonest about why the system doesn’t work and it involves insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:43 pm

Sen. Graham needs some tough questions: The GCHJ bill actually eliminates ACA tax credits and destabilizes the insurance market. Over 6 million Americans ages 50-64 have coverage through the ACA exchanges and 3 million are eligible for ACA tax credits to help pay their premiums according to the AARP.

David Grossman David Grossman September 25, 20179:43 pm

Let’s not forget, Cassidy continuously guarantees that by giving the states all of the authority people won’t be charged more, won’t lose access etc, despite the fact that he won’t be making the decisions to control that if his bills passes.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:44 pm

Graham is diverting, pretending like high drug prices and Aca are not related.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:44 pm

Graham just admitted that Medicare is the most popular healthcare program.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:44 pm

Senator Graham sticks out his big man hand and cuts off Dana Bash.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:44 pm

The most popular healthcare in the country? It is Medicare!!! medicareforall

Benjamin Dixon Benjamin Dixon September 25, 20179:45 pm

that gotdamn Bernie sanders knows how to put on a show — with substance.

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 20179:45 pm

Ok, can we declare the winner now? I believe that is called an “own.”

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:45 pm

  • The Republican Governor of Ohio John Kasich wrote a bi-partisan letter with 10 Governors stating:

  • “We ask you not to consider the Graham-Cassidy-Heller-Johnson amendment and renew support for bipartisan efforts to make health care more available and affordable for all Americans. Only open, bipartisan approaches can achieve true, lasting reforms.”

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:46 pm
Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 20179:46 pm

Bernie is absolutely killing it tonight.

David Grossman David Grossman September 25, 20179:46 pm

Graham looking for a break: “You don’t have any commercials?!”

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:46 pm

The right’s plan is always to sabotage government programs in order to then be able to say “they don’t work”. They’re actively sabotaging Obamacare, and Graham is leeringly saying Medicare is about to collapse. It will if the GOP has anything to do with it.

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:46 pm

Graham Cassidy proposals would also Eliminate enhanced federal matching funds for the Community First Choice program created by the ACA, which would cut federal funding for home- and community-based services by $12 billion, according to CBO

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:46 pm
Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:46 pm

The rest of what Trump is saying is bashing Puerto Rico

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:47 pm
Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:47 pm
Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:48 pm

“These guys right here did nothing to challenge the pharmaceutical companies” Bernie ✌💚🔥

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:49 pm

Although these are nachos – the analogy still works!

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:49 pm

My husband is an Iraqi war veteran with coverage through the VA, which is so important to our family. But my daughter and myself are under-insured with high deductibles for ER visits and out of network providers. Which is why we need medicareforall!

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:50 pm

Ding-ding, round 2.

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:51 pm

“socialized medicine” which we already have for Senior Citizens, Vets, and Active Duty Military…

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:51 pm

He thinks Medicare for all will bankrupt the country and not the $700 billion that just went out for the military budget? priorities

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:52 pm

drchanga exactly

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:52 pm

Good speech by Sen. Klobuchar.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:52 pm

He thinks Medicare for all will bankrupt the country and not the $700 billion that just passed for the military budget? priorities

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:52 pm

It’s funny how the debate keeps coming back to Berniecare and Medicare for All, on both sides – Sanders is driving the terms of the debate.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:52 pm

McCain gets props for stopping repeals.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:53 pm

24-hour corporate cable news is what brought us this – bills no one reads or reviews, senatorial debates hosted on paid TV and interrupted by Trump tweets.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:53 pm

Exactly drchanga

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 20179:53 pm
Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:53 pm

The people know who is fighting for them.

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:53 pm

MCCain has repeatedly spoken out about how GOP is trying to force through a bill without “regular order” – and he definitely gets props for refusing to support this without a full CBO support and with last minute changes weekend to try to buy off states where Senators are waivering.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:54 pm

No it isn’t socialized medicine. Socialized medicine is when the government runs the hospitals. Single Payer pays the hospitals, which just replaces private insurance. The hospitals remain the same. medicareforall

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:54 pm

Medicaid. The federal/state insurance program provides health care for 20 percent of all Americans, including 40 percent of children, half of all births, 60 percent of nursing home expensesand 25 percent of mental health care. The Graham-Cassidy bill would transform the structure of Medicaid, giving states control over how they spend federal funds. The bill cuts Medicaid funding over time. States that expanded their Medicaid programs, including California and New York, would face the biggest cuts, while Texas and some states in the Deep South and West would fare better.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 20179:54 pm

“I know that you know the difference.” bern

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:55 pm

Sanders bashing the process: one hearing, no CBO report, three changes in the bill just today – all to change 1/6 of the economy.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:56 pm

Not people @billcassidy, your one friend that you only repeat the same information on your facebook page that you are saying now, that’s not evidence

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 20179:56 pm

You only lose out on huge expenses from the people and employers and gain actual healthcare with Medicare for all!

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:56 pm

It isn’t just women, this bill would prevent small businesses from important tax breaks if they provide insurance that includes abortion in the coverage. So shameful. Esp since republicans are supposed to be “pro-business.”

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:57 pm

Senator Cassidy says Democrats didn’t want to cooperate on healthcare, despute bipartisan effort that their own bill kneecapped.

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 20179:57 pm

I’ve seen disabled Americans being dragged out of a hearing fighting against this bill. I have yet to see the thousands with $39K premiums fighting for it.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:57 pm

Cassady: “I made a serious attempt to be bi-partisan, and I got zero support.”

I hope Amy and Bernie counter to this claim.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:57 pm

and the ultimate WE won’t pay for it under your insurance

David Grossman David Grossman September 25, 20179:57 pm

Quote of the night?

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 20179:58 pm

It isn’t just women, this bill would prevent small businesses from important tax breaks if they provide insurance that includes abortion in the coverage. So shameful. Esp since republicans are supposed to be “pro-business.” healthcaredebate

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 20179:58 pm

Graham-Cassidy denies women the right to choose Planned Parenthood as their health care provider, restricting access to birth control, cancer, screenings and regular check-ups. Neither Graham nor Cassidy have given any explanation.

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 20179:58 pm

“Making the person come to the healthcare” = “You can have healthcare if you can pay for it.”

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 20179:58 pm

Oh my God! Did Cassidy say that he wants most medicine to be Over the Counter? You know why? Because they are not covered by insurance…

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:59 pm

Cassidy just sprinkled fairy dust on dog poop. dontdefundplannedparenthood

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 20179:59 pm

Cassidy twists desire to defund Planned Parenthood as way to bring healthcare closer to rural people. Wha???

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 20179:59 pm

Making birth control OTC is just a way to keep it from being covered under insurance and making it a separate charge for women. While Viagra is probably still covered

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 20179:59 pm

Republicans will argue that the required coverage forces people to buy healthcare they won’t use, (e.g. I will never use coverage maternity care because I can’t become pregnant) but that ignores that this is the case with ALL insurance. When you say that we should restrict premium payments only to illnesses we are going to have, what you’re really saying is you want the risk pools to be so small that the insurance is untenable and too expensive. And why aren’t Republicans making the same case for coverage of prostate cancer or freaking Viagra? Double standard.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 201710:00 pm

Medociare for All would kill the Hyde Amendment.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:00 pm

Medicare for all is the ultimate improvement to the ACA!

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 201710:00 pm
Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:00 pm

EXCUSE ME SENATOR GRAHAM? YOU all are the leader of being bipartisan?

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 201710:00 pm

Wait, is he really spreading the debunked Planned Parenthood aborted fetuses thing? Did anyone else hear that?

http://www.npr.org/2016/01/28/464594826/in-wake-of-videos-planned-parenthood-investigations-find-no-fetal-tissue-sales

Benjamin Dixon Benjamin Dixon September 25, 201710:01 pm

exactly, jami

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:01 pm

We’re going back to the ‘ol “PP is selling body parts of aborted children” argument are we? Good god.

Brieanna Fisher Brieanna Fisher September 25, 201710:01 pm

Is it just me or is the obamacare recipient the 2017 version of the welfare queen?

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 201710:02 pm

  • @LindseyGrahamSC and @BillCassidy’s bill allows women to be charged higher premiums than men. healthcaredebate

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 201710:02 pm

Wait, is he really spreading the debunked Planned Parenthood aborted fetuses baby parts thing? Did anyone else hear that?

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:03 pm

Yes! Medicare for All kills the Hyde bill!

Full coverage for all women without extra expense for women.
Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:03 pm

Brieanna is absolutely right. And the GOP is deliberately demeaning and demonizing Medicaid recipients. See the last CNN HealthcareTown Hall where Senator Cruz kept saying it wasn’t going to be “Medicare for All” but “Medicaid for All” as an attempt to tarnish it.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:03 pm

How compassionate is it to remove Planned Parenthood services for one year? How many people will die because of this? nograhamcassidy

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 201710:04 pm

And no one on the CNN panel challenges that? Really?

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:04 pm

Exactly tborrelli

Anoa Changa Anoa Changa September 25, 201710:05 pm

Senator Klobuchar: Senator Sanders and I have the same goal re: Bringing more affordable options to all Americans.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:05 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-plannedparenthood-missouri/missouri-ag-finds-no-evidence-planned-parenthood-mishandled-fetal-tissue-idUSKCN0RS1UR20150928

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:05 pm

Having access to healthcare does not mean everyone can afford that access.

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 201710:06 pm

CNN, you are supposed to be a news channel! How can anyone let outright lies go unchallenged and still be considered an outlet for journalism!

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 201710:06 pm

FYI, “buying in” to medicaid or medicare doesn’t supply universal healthcare. The public option would only be available to those who can AFFORD to buy in to it. healthcaredebate medicareforall

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:07 pm

There is no journalism at CNN.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:07 pm

Amy Klobuchar REALLY doesn’t want to utter the words, “Medicare for All.” Go ahead and say it, Amy.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:07 pm

Exactly gdavenport !

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:07 pm

Consciously or not, Senator Klobuchar is pouring a lot of cold water on Medicare for All.

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 201710:07 pm

Cassidy is outright lying about higher costs under medicareforall. For example, under Bernie’s bill, out of pocket costs for drugs will be limited to maximum $250 in copays per year.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:07 pm

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2017/09/25/cbo-graham-cassidy-trumpcare-bill-reduce-coverage-for-millions/212075fd7966

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 201710:07 pm

Good catch mfigueredo. It’s like Medicare for All is a curse of something like that.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:07 pm

Totally agree tigerpixie

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:08 pm

We need more compassion in this country than we need innovation Senator Cassidy!

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:09 pm

Experiment with our lives? How many will die!

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:09 pm

Don’t worry, rwalker… the free market would never fail us! /s

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:10 pm

Bill Cassidy is like a caricature of a sleazy Republican.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:10 pm

What the CBO said: In moving to block grants, “enrollment in Medicaid would be substantially lower because of large reductions in federal funding,” CBO said. “The number of people with comprehensive health insurance that covers high-cost medical events would be reduced by millions compared with the baseline projections for each year during the decade.”

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 201710:10 pm

Cassidy is lying. 32 million is not because of the individual mandate, it represents a part of it. Medicaid expansion had a bigger impact.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:10 pm

Quite the false sense of security mfigueredo

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:11 pm

Senators mentions short-term solution of a public option: exactly what Joe Lieberman and Co. helped kill in 2009.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:11 pm

More fairy dust on dog poop, Senator Cassidy. Its amazing how someone can make something that is going to hurt so many people sound like its something that you should be excited to support. 🤔

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 201710:11 pm

Correction mfigueredo. Bill Cassidy is … a sleazy Republican.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:11 pm

For sure, rwalker. It’s hilarious how they expect us to have faith in the free market when it comes to healthcare. It had its chance and failed miserably.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:11 pm

https://www.cbo.gov/

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 201710:12 pm

Governors hate this bill. It will cut funding for 34 states. Even the really unpopular governor Chris Christie opposes Graham-Cassidy because it is “too injurious” to the people of NJ – it takes $4BN from the people of that state. healthcaredebate

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 201710:12 pm

Bernie is so on-point. These vultures are supposed to be asking for votes for their bill, instead he’s got them refusing to back his own non-nonsense healthcare reform measures.

And Cassidy, governors hate your bill.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:12 pm

Cassidy and Graham should set up an altar to the states and start burning incense to it. It’s like they’ve never given up on the “states rights” argument.

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 201710:12 pm

Sen Klobuchar “All 50 Medicaid Directors opposed this bill”

http://www.businessinsider.com/medicaid-directors-oppose-the-graham-cassidy-health-care-bill-2017-9

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 201710:13 pm

“In fact, Senator Graham said on the Senate floor that funding for California, a state that with a highly effective state-based marketplace and a successful Medicaid expansion, would eventually be cut by 38 percent.”

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/cassidy-graham-amendment-would-cut-hundreds-of-billions-from-coverage-programs-cause

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 201710:13 pm
Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:14 pm

When you follow the link for the CBO you get an “interpretation” from Surprise Surprise, Sen @BillCassidy PLEASE READ the PDF attached and not his Summary

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:14 pm

Can’t believe we have to debate healthcare for all of US still! Insurance is a scam and is draining working men and women of resources like a home to live in. I challenge everyone to go to the Go Fund Me site and see how many are desperate for help due medical bills.

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 201710:15 pm

Exactly rwalker . But if they won’t pass Single Payer, we will!

http://www.wholewashington.org/

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:16 pm

Leading Medicare Advocates Oppose Graham-Cassidy Bill

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:16 pm

Yes WE WILL gdavenport

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 201710:16 pm

While Graham and Cassidy attacked Medicare of All and said it wouldn’t work for the United States, ironically it’s good for businesses. Very good for businesses.
I reported this before in an article:

High health care costs also put the United States at a competitive disadvantage globally. Autoweek reports that “Japan’s health care gives Toyota edge [over General Motors]”. General Motors could have launched 3 additional new-model programs if it didn’t have to pay for its retirees’ health care.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:19 pm

Opening new section on the topic of the nation’s opoid epidemic. The GOP wants to cut Medicaid, which helps fund treatment. Let’s see how they try to squirm out of this.

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 201710:19 pm

It was Medicaid expansion that paid for the people who could treat her addiction.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:19 pm

Screw you younger people, you can retire if you manage to live to the age of 85

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:20 pm

Graham blows off initial questioner on opoid addiction: “Medicaid didn’t save you.” That might be the most prickish moment of tonight.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 201710:20 pm

These guys clearly govern through religiously inflected personal anecdotes.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:20 pm

Graham: “What do we do to save a trillion dollars.”
Me: *Points to military budget*

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:21 pm

Mic drop

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 201710:21 pm

The Obamacare “Guy or Gal”?!? You mean you don’t know who runs the program? healthcaredebate

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:21 pm

Exactly, honeylight. At this point millennials won’t be able to retire until we’re 100.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:21 pm

“Who IS the Obamacare guy or gal?” What the h*** is Graham talking about?

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:22 pm

mfigueredo IF you live that long

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:23 pm
SENATE: GRAHAM-CASSIDY PLAN

The bill would get rid of Medicaid expansion money by 2026 and convert all Medicaid spending to a per capita cap, which means that federal money per person will be lower than it is now. States would have to decide whether to make up that funding, trim services or limit who can get Medicaid.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:23 pm

Sanders: ‘When you cut off Medicaid and don’t get funding to the states, more people will die. This is absolutely crazy.’ Crazy that he has to say something so obvious.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:23 pm

Totally. Most millennials will have to work until they die. It’s unbelievable.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:24 pm

“It won’t be my fault if your Gov doesn’t want you to have it, then too bad” Essentially what @billCassidy just said

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:24 pm

Did Senator Cassidy mention he’s a doctor? Only 1,000,000,000,000 times.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:25 pm

This is how Bill Cassidy gives himself extra time when he needs to think of a way to wiggle out of the corner he was backed into: “I use to be a physician, here’s what I did…”

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:25 pm

Cassidy on opoid addiction: “give states flexibility to cut down on waiting lists.” That means DENY CARE, Doctor.

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:25 pm

Hey guys… does anyone know what Bill Cassidy’s occupation use to be?

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 201710:25 pm

Disability advocates were arrested today opposing this bill, Senator Klobuchar. That should be acknowledged by someone at this debate.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:26 pm

Lmao Sooo true mfigueredo

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:26 pm

The pharmaceutical companies Need to pay for rehabilitation for opioid addiction!

They pushed these out in the communities.
Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:27 pm

Yes! rwalker

Georgia Davenport Georgia Davenport September 25, 201710:27 pm

Everyone should have access to affordable healthcare. Not “affordable” insurance. Insurance companies cost American billions in waste due to administrative costs and CEO pay. It is time for HR 676 and S. 1804. medicareforall healthcaredebate

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 201710:27 pm

Its totally dishonest that Cassidy and Graham both keep saying “leave it to the states” ignoring the fact that states will NOT be able to maintain the increased coverage afforded by the ACA. Block grant funding to the states will not be able to provide the current level of ACA subsidies.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:27 pm

Going to call up my Obamacare guy or gal tomorrow to check on my coverage; Senator Graham’s got me rattled.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:28 pm

Cutting Medicaid will hurt our children the most.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 201710:28 pm

My wife, who is not into politics at all, just told me: I don’t understand Republicans… I feel that they believe in their own lies. I feel they care about the debt of the country over the lives of the people.

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 201710:30 pm

Cassidy’s argument: “Trust me, I’m a doctor,” basically.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:30 pm

khackbarth find out who my guy or gal is please

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:30 pm

salammorcos I believe she may be right

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:31 pm

Did CNN just advertise itself as “the most trusted name in news”? lol

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 201710:31 pm

The nice thing about this particular debate is not only are the GOP vultures losing on this bill, we know the people are on the side of Medicare-for-All. Now we just need to put fear for their seats into as many non-reformist incumbents as possible.

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:31 pm

Bernie: Our job is to come together and conclude that we cannot be the only nation that does not have Single Payer Healthcare. healthcaredebate

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:32 pm

Closing statements. Sanders: GOP is legislation opposed by every major healthcare organization in the country. Our job is to defeat this proposal, and then move on to see healthcare as a right.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:32 pm

Does Sen. Lindsey Graham realize that he is part of the Government that he is trying to make everyone fear?

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 201710:32 pm

Solution: We don’t have to throw more money at insurance companies, Senator Graham – you can support medicareforall. You showed your colors in claiming Welfare Reform was a “success” – that “success” was on the backs of poor Americans. Thats exactly what you are proposing here.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:33 pm

Graham goes back to Berniecare again. He’s obseeeeeeeeessed.

Jami Miller Jami Miller September 25, 201710:33 pm

Graham, and I’m paraphrasing “If we don’t repeal Obamacare, something something socialism is scary.”

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:33 pm

Senator Graham: Medicare, Medicaid is driving the debt.
Me: No Sen. Graham the bloated budget for the military industrial complex is driving our debt. healthcaredebate

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:34 pm

@LindseyGrahamSC ‏are you telling us that the Government isn’t doing the best it can for its citizens? Why don’t you tell your fellow politicians to do better?

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:34 pm

Lindsey Graham: “Obamacare is just a placeholder for Berniecare.” Damn right.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 201710:35 pm

You’re right, Lindsey, this is just getting started. We know, you’re not about caring.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:35 pm

OKAY, everyone Cassidy mentioned he was a doctor again, DRINK!!

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:36 pm

Graham winds up with more faux-populist breast-beating against the insurance companies. What a hero of the people.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 201710:36 pm

Does anyone feel that this debate would impact public opinion in any way? or the opinions of the Republicans who are voting “no”?

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:36 pm

Amy Klobuchar: “Put the politics aside and the people first.” Take your own advice and cosponsor Bernie’s bill, Amy.

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 201710:36 pm

How does the patient have the “power” if the patient has a pre-existing condition and can’t afford medical care after his or her state has opted out of covering those because there is not enough money in the block grant?

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:37 pm

Fight or flight rules……guess what…..we have no other option but to fight! medicareforall

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:37 pm

So let me get this straight Senator Cassidy. If we choose single-payer healthcare we are not choosing ourselves? Sounds like the Jedi mind trick to me. healthcaredebate

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:37 pm

The problem with Bill Cassidy is that he still thinks capitalism works.

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 201710:38 pm

As always, we have to do a poll.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:38 pm

salammorcos I don’t think either because Republicans don’t think it goes far enough to undo “Obamacare”. I don’t think anything said tonight from Graham or Cassidy would sway anyone who wasn’t already on board.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 201710:38 pm

It’s just such a poor premise, that we shouldn’t pull together to help the sick. Amoral and cruel. Even these vultures’ own colleagues see it.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:38 pm

OMG! Is Cassidy for real? SMH

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:39 pm

This debate was a great way to promote Bernie’s Medicare for All bill. Thanks, Bill and Lindsey!

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:39 pm

Imagine if the Democrats were united around Medicare For All instead of Sanders having to be the only person on the stage arguing for it tonight? Imagine how much stronger their position would come across? You may say I’m a dreamer…

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 201710:39 pm

honeylight, I’m ok with that. It means “No” to the bill. I’ll take that any day.

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:39 pm

salammorcos I think they lost points when they refused to answer Sanders when he asked them directly if they could agree to the few items and they wouldn’t answer

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 201710:39 pm

The problem with Graham-Cassidy is that both those senators think that care for sick people should be a for-profit activity.

Adriel Hampton Adriel Hampton September 25, 201710:40 pm

Adriel, out! Nice liveblogging with you. m4a

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:40 pm

salammorcos me too!

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:40 pm

I’m a dreamer as well @kurt

Salam Morcos Salam Morcos September 25, 201710:40 pm

Thank you all for joining this live blog. It was an absolute pleasure to be with all of you.

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:41 pm

We’re all together in this, rwalker!

Pamela Getz Pamela Getz September 25, 201710:41 pm

Good Night Everyone!

Michael Figueredo Michael Figueredo September 25, 201710:41 pm

It’s been super fun liveblogging with you all! Good night!

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:42 pm

Always @kurt

Kurt Hackbarth Kurt Hackbarth September 25, 201710:42 pm

Basic takeaway from tonight: Cassidy and Graham know their bill is going to fail. But like a pair of creepy ex-boyfriends, they’ll be back. And so will we for another night of live blogging. Good night!

Tamborine Borrelli Tamborine Borrelli September 25, 201710:42 pm

Thanks everyone it was fun! Have a good night!

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 201710:42 pm

A few years ago, a $15 minimum wage and medicareforall were considered impossible fantasies. We all need to keep dreaming to make mfa happen.

Rhonda Walker Rhonda Walker September 25, 201710:43 pm

Thank you all for a wonderful discussion! See you out on the community while we fight to pass Medicare For All!

Natalie Holme Elsberg Natalie Holme Elsberg September 25, 201710:43 pm

So fun live-blogging this debate with you. Goodnight to all.

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